Cycle of Time
Time flows in a cyclic manner in the following order:
1. Golden Age (Satyug)
2. Silver Age (Tetrayug)
3. Confluence between the Silver and Copper Ages. For convenience, I refer to this Confluence as the Mid-Confluence or Mid-Confleunce Age.
4. Copper Age (Dwapuryug)
5. Iron Age (Kaliyug).
6. Confluence Age (Sangamyug)
The BK (Brahma Kumaris) Cycle of Time consists of a duration of 5000 years. It begins with the Golden Age (Satyug or Satyuga). Then comes the Silver Age (Tetrayug or Tretayuga). There is a divine world in the first half cycle, in the Golden Age (Satyug) and Silver Age (Tetrayug). At the end of the Silver Age, when the first sinful act is performed, i.e. when a vice is entertained, the world transforms into an ordinary world. This brings an end to the divine world on earth and the Copper Age (Dwapuryug or Dwapuryuga) begins. There is a Confluence between the Silver Age and the Copper Age when the Corporeal World transforms from the perfect state to the imperfect state. The divine souls transform into the ordinary state. Thus, the whole world, including the corporeal bodies, change into the imperfect state. So, ordinary, imperfect human beings live in the Copper Age. After the Copper Age comes the Iron Age (Kaliyug or Kaliyuga). The ordinary world of the second half cycle exists during both the Copper Age (Dwapuryug) and the Iron Age (Kaliyug). Then comes the Confluence Age (Sangamyug or Sangamyuga) through which the divine world is re-created and the Golden Age begins again. The Confluence Age (Sangamyug) overlaps the end part of Kaliyug and the beginning of Satyug. Human souls transform into divine souls during Sangamyug. Through this, the whole world transforms into the divine state. So perfect divine human beings will live in the Golden and Silver Ages again. God has already brought the Confluence Age into existence, through the Brahma Kumaris. So through the Confluence Age, the world is now being transformed back into the divine Golden Aged world.
The above gives a brief outline on the Cycle of Time. What is below this are the older notes written on the Cycle of Time which have not been updated. Up-dates on the Cycle of Time are given through Pari's books.
NB: The remainder (on the Cycle of Time) can be found after the following introductory passages.
Before you read this article, please note that, from 1996, I had begun to see numerous visions. I (Pari, the author of this article) did not have experiences involving the ‘grey aliens’ etc. until a later time. Thus, when I began writing my articles, from 1996, I had not known that the Mid-Confluence Aged scientists (who lived about 2500 years ago) had sent beings into the future, on the instructions of the Mid-Confluence Aged gods/rulers, so that these beings (who are referred to as aliens now) can assist Mankind, especially for the re-creation of the Golden Aged world and the Return (of God and ‘past births through the afterlife’). Hence, in earlier articles, all these are not reflected. All these will be explained further, in future books.
From 1996, when I began seeing numerous visions, I was trying to understand what was happening to me. As I was trying to understand this, I began writing all the articles which can be found in this website. Each article is a continuation of the earlier one. So what I had explained in earlier articles were not explained in subsequent articles. This had also allowed me to keep developing what I have to explain. After I had written numerous articles, people were asking me as to which articles they had to read in order to understand something or the other. Thus, in 2015, I began to write books. All the knowledge which a person needs, so as to understand the contents of a book, are given in the book. Thus, a person could understand the contents of a book without having to revert to other articles or books. However, a better understanding could be had through reading the other books. I had also begun writing my first book “Holographic Universe : An Introduction” because I began to have a good understanding on the structure of the Holographic Universe through experiences, guidance from God, research, etc.
It should be remembered that my articles were written while I was trying to understand what was happening to me. So, the emphasis in the articles may have been on my own roles (due to the afterlife of my past births). In my books, I concentrate on just explaining knowledge and not really on giving an explanation on my own role.
It should be noted that since there are so many articles, I find it very difficult to update the articles. So there may be information in them which has not been updated. I try my best to keep my eBooks updated.
Anyway, to have a better understand of what has been said in this article, read all my earlier articles. Begin by reading the first article which is numbered as No.1 at my List of Articles. Then, re-read this article to have a better understanding. It should be noted that all my articles were written based on time being cyclic. Click here to understand the basics of the Cycle of Time.
Cycle of Time
The following articles were posted before the article "Cycles & Calenders - Mayan, BK, Hindu, Cosmological etc" which is the shortened name for Comparing Hindu Cosmological Cycle, Mayan, Jew, Chinese Calenders and Others to the 5000 Year Spiritual Cycle of Time.
I have re-organised and improved the notes of this article and posted them at Comparing Hindu Cosmological Cycle, Mayan, Jew, Chinese Calenders and Others to the 5000 Year Spiritual Cycle of Time. There are a lot of new materials being discussed in the new article too.
The following posts were posted in the Global BK Forum which is not existing now. I have removed a lot of conversations from the thread because I felt that they were not relevant. I will be removing more, with time.
There is a brief discussion on the cycles, Manvantara and Charturyuga, at:
Vishnu Avatars in the Four Ages (Posted on 8-10-2013) or at
Vishnu Avatars in the Four Ages
Wednesday 6th January 2010 06:15pm 2
The Confluence Age is to safe ourselves and help in the transformation process. The cycle of time will repeat itself and no-one will be able to stop it. Destruction will take place and we have to be smart and make sure that we can safe ourselves and help others at the same time. Some people get carried away and can wish for destruction. But this is not what the Confluence Age is all about. It is a time when we are given an opportunity to do something to help ourselves and others.
Sunday 10th January 2010 03:53pm 16
It would seem that if you wanted to “observe” or detect the electron, you are brought into the corporeal dimension and you see the electron behaving like a particle; and if you were not interested in looking at the electron or photon and you just let them act, you will be seeing the movement of the electron or photon as waves, i.e. you are observing what happens in the dimension of waves. It is as if the photon and electron are existing simultaneously in 2 dimensions, the particle dimension and the wave dimension. This and the fact that whatever we see hear, hear, touch etc are all done through electrical signals sent through our nerves, may have influenced the ancient Hindus to take the view that the Corporeal World is actually an illusion. The corporeal world is made of atoms and atoms have electrons in them. And the electrons seem to be existing in 2 dimensions – the particle dimension and the wave dimension. Light also has the properties of both the wave and the particle, like the electron. The tiny light particle is called photon. So you have a photon of light which is like a particle of light. Yet at the same time, that photon of light behaves like waves. So the light energy is in 2 dimensions which are the particle dimension and the wave dimension. Both these dimensions (the light's particle dimension and the light's wave dimension) are measurable and so they are in the corporeal dimension. The metaphysical energies are not measurable. The soul is in the metaphysical dimension. The soul is also a point of light (like a photon). The soul also has wave-like properties because our feelings can affect others and to do this, the souls' energies must be like vibrations or waves. So the soul, like light, also has 2 dimensions which are the metaphysical dimension and the subtle dimension. The energies of the soul are in the metaphysical dimension but the energies sent out to influence others is in the subtle dimension. But our brain waves are waves belonging to the corporeal dimension and this is why machines are able to easily record it. Brahman includes the subtle dimensions of the souls through which God can influence us through His vibrations and we can influence others through our vibration. Brahman includes the vibrations of God, human souls and the spiritual energies of nature. So there is metaphysical Paramatma (God) and Atma (human soul). Yet at the same time there is the subtle Brahman which includes God's vibrations and human vibrations. So it would seem that even the Hindu Paramatma, Atma and Brahman theories were developed through being influenced by Quantum Physics. Nature does not have the vices. This is why when we are upset and we walk among nature, we become influenced by their viceless state and become peaceful. We are influenced by their vibrations. However, natures' state is dependent on Man's state. So when when Man becomes satopradhan, nature is transformed through our vibrations and stays that way for so long as Man is satopradhan. The minute, Man looses his satopradhan state, nature also looses it. When Man goes into the sato stage, nature goes into the sato stage. When Man goes into the Rajo state, nature goes into the rajo state. When Man goes into the tamopradhan state, nature goes into the tamopradhan state. Nature's state is dependent on Man's state as we move through the cycle of time. Man's energies transforms from the divine into the ordinary as we move into the Copper Age. In the Satopradhan and sato state, there are only the virtues within man. From the copper Age onwards, our energies slowly transforms into the vices as we begin to use the vices. However, where nature is concerned, it's energies do not get transformed into the vices as Man's does. They only become weak like how Man have become weak. Since Nature does not have the vices within them. It feels good to be within nature.
One can't measure the metaphysical energies with the machines. One might be ale to measure that which is connected to the subtle regions depending on how closely associated it is to the corporeal world. For example, ghosts have attachment for something in the corporeal world and so they are closely associated to the corporeal world. So one might be able to detect their subtle energies. However, one might not be able to detect the other subtle bodies in the subtle regions because they not closely associated to the corporeal world. One might be able to detect the brain waves to decide the state which a person is in but that might be all that they can measure.
Sunday 10th January 2010 09:58pm 18
To understand Hinduism, you should understand the science called Quantum Mechanics. Mechanics is the science through which one studies force and motion. Mechanics is a branch of Physics. Classical mechanics is the theory of mechanics based on Newton's laws of motion. Classical mechanics is a also branch of classical physics. But this branch was not able to deal with quantum and so Quantum Physics and Quantum Mechanics was used for the study of the quantum. 1 particle of photon or electron is 1 quanta / quantum of energy. This is the basic unit of energy. Energy exists in quantums and not as a continuous form. These particles of quantum travel as waves in space. Quantum mechanics says that there is no empty space. It says that there is energy even in empty space even though there are no particles in it. Brahman is similar to all our spiritual energies in space. Our souls are in our bodies, they are not in the space outside us and yet our energies flows outside us into space and fills it up. So it is as if we are everywhere as Brahman and God is also everywhere as Brahman. Yet, at the same time, each human body has it's own soul (Atma) which is a quantum of energy. God (Paramatma) is also a quantum of energy but His energies are more powerful than the human soul's energies.
The communication between God and the soul, who is in yoga with God, works like the science of quantum entanglement. This is what BKs are aiming to achieve. A state where God's thought is our thought and we do as we get instructed by God. It will be as if God is getting it done. This is also my aim. This is what we mean when we say that we want to be and remain as instruments of God. This is how God gets the world transformed into the new world at the end of the cycle of time. But off course, if our link is not good, we would be doing what we want to do and our thought would not be what God's thought was. And so sometimes, it is difficult to say if we are doing what we want to do or whether we are acting as per God's instructions. One could also use the quantum entanglement theory to explain how we are all entangled into the world drama. The minute we leave the soul world to come into the corporeal world, we get entangled into the world drama and God is also entangled into it. Thus we are take our births as we do and God plays His role as He does. When the foetus is created for us and it is time for us to leave the present body to enter into that foetus, we leave and take our birth there because of the entanglement with each other and the world drama. Some people like the idea of having a 'quantum entanglement' kind of relationship with others and animals whereas others, like me, would prefer to have a 'quantum entanglement' kind of relationship with God. In heaven, a perfect 'quantum entanglement' kind of relationship exist between a husband and wife, and nature and animals. So animals and nature serve us there in the Golden Age. A husband (Narayan) and wife (Lakshmi) would behave like Vishnu.
Thursday 14th January 2010 08:20pm 1
There is also global warming on Mars. So the scientist might not be sure if the global warming on earth is related to what we are doing though it is obvious that we are contributing to global warming.
The Hindu ratio 4:3:2:1 for the cycle reminds me of how we count backwards for something to get started.
Tuesday 19th January 2010 02:41pm 10
Quote Filthy Shudra : As you bear the name of the divine being that carries Vishnu throughout the world (nice picture by the way)...
Through effort making I am becoming Narayan who will be Vishnu in Heaven. Right now, I enjoy the flying stage of Garuda through which the soul is becoming divine / Narayan. I call myself Garuda because it reminds me that I have to constantly enjoy the flying stage. Through constantly experiencing the flying stage, I will one day be flying around the world as Vishnu, in my Viman (flying craft), in the Golden Age.
Wednesday 20th January 2010 02:28pm 11
Spirituality can have different cycles from the cycle of the corporeal world. Why should the 2 co-incide? When the divine people of the Silver Age were coming out of the Silver Age, whatever they need to know in respect of spirituality should have emerged to make them come up with the 5000 year cycle for spirituality. This is why the Hinduism states that the knowledge of the Hindus were handed down by the gods. The concept of Brahman may have also been put forward based on what had emerged at that time, especially since the people had the advanced sciences, they could have understood what had emerged through the use of the sciences. However, the later people must have misunderstood or did not understand what the gods from heaven were saying, at the end of the Silver Age. Whatever, the people at the end of the Silver Age had come up with was for sustenance of the world from the beginning of the Copper Age. The theories must have been started by the people from the end of the Silver Age cos this must be why the ancient stories etc connect these stories etc to the giants. The people from heavenly world of the Silver Age are being seen as people from another world or from heaven. This is being misintepreted as meaning aliens who came from the sky. They have associated the sky to heaven. They may have also done this because the spiritual world is higher than the corporeal world. Surely the lighter the region, the higher it would be. 'Corporeal' is the densest and so that may be why it is portrayed the lowest. The metaphysical is the lighest and that may be why that is portrayed as the highest. I think the ancient people have portrayed the vices and the dead as below the corporeal, as underworlds. For them, divinity is the highest while the vices and ghosts (an unholy state) are the lowest. Actually, it doesn't really matter as to where the region is located in relation to the other regions. It is just the knowledge that these different regions exist that is important. Well, at least where spirituality is concerned, it is important.
Wednesday 20th January 2010 06:30pm 12
Actually, the Hindu cycle of time is further divided and sub-divided into numerous cycles. You can read something about these Hindu cycles at
There are 14 Manus (Manu is the first man who rules after the Great Flood) in each day of Brahma. I shall deal with this later. You can read something about Manus at the following site:
For the time being, I am just going to concentrate on the Hindu day and night of Brahma which is 8.64 billion years long as a total. This figure is very close to the 'age of the universe' which the present day scientists are giving as about 10-15 billion years. (The day of Brahma last for 4.32 billion years and the night of Brahma lasts for 4.32 billion years. So there is a total of 8.64 billion years for the Hindu cycle which represent the life-span of one cycle of the universe.)
Present day science states that, “Calculation shows that the big bang occurred as long as 10-15 billion years ago, which is about three times the age of the Earth.”(From website : http://www.ugcs.caltech.edu/~yukimoon/BigBang/)
Note that the present day scientist are not really very sure as to when the Big Bang actually began. Present day science is saying that the Big Bang is about 3 times the age of earth, which would mean that the Big Bang came first and then after a long time, the earth got created to what it is now. This would mean that there was no life on earth until a much later date and the Night of Brahma fits well with this scientific theory because there is no human beings living during the night of Brahma. Human beings only exist during the Day of Brahma through the Manus (who are the 14 generations of first man).
From website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_the_Earth: “Modern geologists and geophysicists accept that the age of the Earth is around 4.54 billion years. ...The Sun, in comparison, is about 4.57 billion years old, about 30 million years older.”.
All these ages of the earth and sun seems to fit well with the Hindu Day of Brahma which is 4.32 billion years long. It has to be noted the age of the sun, earth and universe are just estimates. But the Hindu scriptures has given a neat round figure of 4.32 billion years for the day and another 4.32 billion years for the night. The Day of Brahma was the time when life began to exist on earth (after it's creation). I suppose, Hinduism presumes that once the universe comes to an end, all souls go back to the Soul World and stay there until a new stage gets created for us. However, there is a possibility that there may not be an end to the universe as the Big Crunch may not take place to bring the universe to an end. Something else might happen. The Big Freeze is only one of those other possibilities.
According to the sciences, the universe has been expanding since the Big Bang and it is still expanding. Scientist say that after the expansion stops, the universe might experience a Big Crunch where the universe will start falling back in upon itself. I would say that the night of Brahma might include from 'the time in the Big Crunch when life will not be able to exist anymore' until the time when life begins to exist again on earth, after earth gets re-created (which would be after the next Big Bang). The scientists also have the theory of the Big Freeze which happens after 'expanding of the universe' stops. But I think the Hindu cycle is based on the Big Bang and the Big Crunch theories.
NB: in the following site there are so many different views about the creation theory in respect of it's age etc. http://www.religioustolerance.org/ev_date1.htm
You can read something about the Big Crunch at the following sites:
The Hindu scriptures state that there is the day and night of Brahma. According to Hindu scriptures, nothing exists during the night of Brahma. This flows along well with the present day science that life did not exist once because earth did not exist, for awhile, after the Big Bang. But how can there be no life for so long? This may be why the concept of Brahman was created because for so long as Brahman exists, the corporeal world has to exist.
Wednesday 20th January 2010 11:09pm 13
The sky may indicate a high state of mind. People of heaven live in a high state of mind that's why they are indicated to live in a high place. The mind energy is concentrated in the high organs of the body - the forehead in the beginning, later it falls to the level of the eyes , the shoulders in Silver age, the stomack in the Copper age and by the end of the Iron Age people start thinking only for the low organs.
Even today when we feel in high spirit we say that we are in the clouds.
Wednesday 20th January 2010 11:21pm 14
What you have just said is good Omshanti. It makes a lot of sense.
What Pari has said was good too. Now how is Pari going to explain the 14 Manus, 71 Chaturyugas and the 4 ages in each Chaturyuga? That's the confusing part, isn't it?
Thursday 21st January 2010 12:56am 15
Bast (The Cat)
The Yogi Sri Yukteswar had also said that the Hindu cycle was purposely prolonged and also prolonged out of confusion. From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuga#Sri_Yukteswar.27s_teachings_on_the_yugas :“In The Holy Science, Sri Yukteswar wrote that the traditional or long count view is based on a misunderstanding. He says that at the end of the last descending Dvapara Yuga (about 700 BC), "Maharaja Yudhisthira, noticing the appearance of the dark Kali Yuga, made over his throne to his grandson [and]...together with all of his wise men...retired to the Himalaya Mountains... Thus there was none in the court...who could understand the principle of correctly accounting the ages of the several Yugas." According to Sri Yukteswar, nobody wanted to announce the bad news of the beginning of the ascending Kali Yuga, so they kept adding years to the Dvapara date (at that time 2400 Dvapara) only retitling the epoch to Kali. As the Kali began to ascend again, scholars of the time recognized that there was a mistake in the date (then being called 3600+ Kali, even their texts said Kali had only 1200 years). "By way of reconciliation, they fancied that 1200 years, the real age of Kali, were not the ordinary years of our earth, but were so many daiva (or deva) years ("years of the gods"), consisting of 12 daiva months of 30 daiva days each, with each daiva day being equal to one ordinary solar year of our earth. Hence according to these men 1200 years of Kali Yuga must be equal to 432,000 years of our earth." ”
This view that the people mistook the human years as 'years of the gods' is good. The 'years of the gods' is longer than the human years. Pari's view that the ancient Hindus preferred to ignore the '5000 year spiritual cycle' for the sake of sustenance is also good. Both views seem to suggest that the ancient Hindus may have preferred to prolong the cycle to keep fear away etc. Maybe both of these and further confusion had made the ancient Hindus adopt the cosmological cycle as the cycle of time. The Hindus do also have very complicated systems of time keeping which may differ from group to group.
Thursday 21st January 2010 01:35pm 16
Science has to give theories when they have some evidences to give a theory even though there is no real proof that it is like that. A theory can just be a speculation. It is not a proven 'fact'. There may not be any certainty or any reality in it. A theory os just a belief or a hypothesis. These theories remain as theories unless it can get proven. The creation story is based on a scientific theory. It would be very difficult to prove what the Hindu cosmology is saying. The Jew and Christian creation stories are no better. Hindu cosmology may be a scientific theory which may have got incorporated into religion. The fact that it has got incorporated into religion does not turn it into true facts. The Hindu scriptures are giving information of the sciences, so what's so different about information being given in respect of cosmology in the Hindu scriptures. Maybe, it is because it is just a theory that Hindu cosmology was stated like a story including the Hindu gods. Other sciences have related in a very factual way in the scriptures. The Big Bang theory is also only a theory because they can't really prove it. They just created the theory based on evidences which they got which suggests that a Big Bang must have happened. They are saying that the Big Bang is continuing to happen even now. I think they are saying this based on the fact that it takes a long time for evidences to come to earth because of the width of the universe.
Thursday 21st January 2010 05:08pm 17
It takes the sun about 225 to 250 million years to complete one cycle around the center of the galaxy. The time taken for one complete revolution of the Sun around the center of the galaxy is called a “cosmic year”. It is said that the Sun has orbited around the galactic center, about 20 times during its 5 billion year lifetime. This is just an estimate. It can be less or more. Actually the sun is less that 5 billion years old. It is only 4.57 billion years old. The scientists have just taken rough estimates. So there is a possibility that the number of times the sun has gone around the center of the Milky Way galaxy is less than 20 times. I shall compare this to the 14 Manus in the Hindu cosmological cycle. Each Manu might represent the Sun's cycle around the center of the Milky Way galaxy. The time span of one Manu is about 306,720,000 years. This is not very far from the time span for the revolution of the sun around the center of the Milky Way galaxy which is about 225 to 250 million (250,000,000) years. The ancient people had associated the sun to God and it is God who creates Man. Thus, the beginning of the sun's evolution around the center of the Milky Way galaxy may have been associated to the Sun's (God's) creation of the first man (Manu), i.e. Man gets created at the beginning of each cycle. It is the role of Brahma which is used for creation, so the scripture story says that Brahma created the first Manu at the beginning of each dawn of a new era, or Manvantara. It has to be noted that even though the Mayans state that destruction takes place at the end of each 5000 year cycle; the Mayans have also stated that destruction through flood does not occur at the end of each 5000 year cycle in the 25,000 year precessional cycle related to the Long Count Calender. A different element is the cause for the destructive event at the end of each of the 5000 year cycle in the precessional cycle related to the Long Count Calender. This view would be similar to the Hindu view that the creation of Manu (the first man, after the Great Flood) will only happen once in every 306 million years.
The Chaturyugas will be explained in my next post.
Wednesday 27th January 2010 06:54pm 18
Before my post on the Chaturyuga, I would like to explain something more about the Hindu cosmological cycle. One has to understand that the ancient Hindus knowledge about the universe was very good and so they would have been able to identify cyclic events which might bring about great possibilities for destructive events on earth. I will be discussing this in my next post on the Chaturyugas which consists of the 4 ages (Golden Age, Silver Age, Copper Age and the Iron Age).
In the following videos, the ancient Hindus had presented various kind of maps, in a concise manner. It would seem that the ancient Hindus were using their intelligence to present scientific and spiritual knowledge about various aspects of the universe, through a single concept called Bhumandala. It's everything in a nutshell. The videos below explains Bhumandala.
1.Part 1 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe http://www.livevideo.com/video/6645DDBD6401467CA3DC69DF45F74B13/part-1-hindu-cosmology-bha.aspx
2.Part 2 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe http://www.livevideo.com/video/DCD337C71F4C4C489AB7DDEE810535FA/part-2-hindu-cosmology-bha.aspx
3.Part 3 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe http://www.livevideo.com/video/B0CD4B554DC541598544D4C706FFBF2C/part-3-hindu-cosmology-bha.aspx
4.Part 4 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe http://www.livevideo.com/video/8DEE6CE2FAC44F58B3337A2963202BBE/part-4-hindu-cosmology-bha.aspx
5.Part 5 - Hindu Cosmology - Bhagavatam - Mysteries of the Sacred Universe http://www.livevideo.com/video/C64F49B38BF14612B8563CC08D790408/part-5-hindu-cosmology-bha.aspx
In part 3 of the video clips above, it has been state that astrologers had underestimated the distance from the sun to the earth until modern times. It is said that the information given in the Hindu scriptures, relating to Bhumandala, is consistent with the information given by modern day scientist. It also shows how the facts given in the Bhumandala are accurate based on existing facts, evidences etc. Despite this, I would like to point out how certain numbers (4,3,2,1) are used regularly in Hindu cosmology. It would suggest that just as the Bhumandala concept is used to simplify knowledge about the solar system etc into a nutshell, the numbers 4,3,2,1 may also have been used regularly to make scientific knowledge easy to remember. For example, the Hindu cycle counts backwards in the ratio 4:3:2:1. It has to be noted that 1 is often used in the sense that there is 1 Day of Brahma and 1 Night of Brahma, each of which is 4.32 Billion each (4,3,2 also counted backwards). 1 Mahayuga or Chaturyuga is for 4.32 million years (also counted backwards). Kaliyug is for 432,000 years (also counted backwards). It has to be noted that the same numbers are used in descending order : from Billion to Million and then to Hundred Thousand. Further, each yuga (satyuga, treta yuga, dwapur yuga and kaliyuga) is a multiplication of 432,000 in the ratio of 4:3:2:1. Brahma will live up to 100 years (notice the 1 in the 100). The total number of Mahayuga or Chaturyuga in 1 day of Brahma is 1000 (1000 also has one in it). How beautifully the ancient Hindus have calculated and divided the time up such that the numbers used are all 4, 3, 2 and 1 for the important concepts. Are these really accurate figures or are they just showing the intelligence of those people in their mathematical calculations and presentation. It shows that the ancient people gave a lot of importance to creativity. Even their scripture stories show creativity.
There is a possibility that the ancient Hindus just used numbers which were appealing to them while giving approximates. It would be easier to remember numbers if the same numbers were used.
Anyway, it is very obvious that the Hindus have based their cycle on astronomical events and cycles, and not on the 5000 year spiritual cycle which the Mayans, Brahma Kumaris and others have used. However, it would be very interesting to note that the Mayan state that it is about 5000 years since the beginning of the cycle while the Hindus say that it is about 5000 years since Kaliyug began. But the Hindus do not see the present time as a time for destruction. There are also similarities between what the Mayans say in respect of their precessional cycle and what has been said in the Hindu scriptures. The following has been said in the following 2 websites :
" Vishnunabhi: Yugas and Galactic Center
One of the oldest writings in Vedic literature comes from a pseudo-historical god-man called Manu. René Guénon pointed out that Manu belongs to a family of related archetypal figures, which include Melchezidek, Metatron, St Michael, Gabriel, and Enoch. As an angelic inspiration for the rebirth of humanity at the dawn of a new era, or Manvantara, Manu is the primal law-giver, and his laws were recorded in the extremely ancient Vedic text called the Laws of Manu. Much of its contents describe moral and ethical codes of right behavior, but there is a section that deals with the ancient Vedic doctrine of World Ages - the Yugas. Manu indicates that a period of 24,000 years — clearly a reference to precession — consists of a series of four yugas or ages, each shorter and spiritually darker than the last. In one story this process of increasing limitation is envisioned as a cosmic cow standing with each leg in one quarter of the world; with each age that passes a leg is lost, resulting in the absurd and unstable world we live in today—a cow balancing on one leg.
According to the information in the Laws of Manu, the morning and twilight periods between the dawn of each new era equals one-tenth of its associated yuga, as shown in the following table:
Dawn Era Dusk Total Name
400 + 4000 + 400 = 4800 years. Satya Yuga (Golden Age)
300 + 3000 + 300 = 3600 years. Treta Yuga (Silver Age)
200 + 2000 + 200 = 2400 years. Dwapara Yuga (Bronze Age)
100 + 1000 + 100 = 1200 years. Kali Yuga (Iron Age)
In Vedic mythology, a fabled dawn time existed in the distant past, when human beings had direct contact with the divine intelligence emanating from Brahma—the seat of creative power and intelligence in the cosmos. This archaic Golden Age (the Satya Yuga) lasted some 4800 years. After the Golden Age ended, humanity entered a denser era, that of the Silver Age, lasting only 3600 years. In this age, humanity’s connection with the source was dimmed, and sacrifices and spiritual practices became necessary to preserve it. The Bronze Age followed, and humanity forgot its divine nature. Empty dogmas arose, along with indulgence in materialism. Next we entered the Kali Yuga—in which we remain today—where the human spirit suffers under gross materialism, ignorance, warfare, stupidity, arrogance, and everything contrary to our divine spiritual potential.
As the teachings tell, Kali, the creator-destroyer Goddess, will appear at the end of Kali Yuga to sweep away the wasted detritus of a spirit-dead humanity, making way for a new cycle of light and peace. Notice that the Manu text takes us from a pinnacle of light to the ultimate end-point of the process—the darkness of Kali Yuga. And notice that the four ages, when the overlap period is added, amounts to only half of the 24,000-year period of the Vedic Yuga cycle."
So it would seem that, though the Hindu cycle is for 8.64 billions years with 14 Manus, Manu creates a law for a Vedic Yuga cycle of 24,000 years. The 24,000 year Vedic Yuga cycle is similar to the Mayan 25,000 year cycle which is based on the earth's precession (see my 5th post in the 1st page of this topic relating to this).
However, where the Hindu 24,000 year cycle is concerned, when calculations are made to show how the ages overlap, the total amount of time comes to only 12,000 years. There is a possibility that Hindus prefer to overlook this Vedic Yuga Cycle because of the error in the scriptures or because they did not know what to make of it since there were 2 different figures given. However, Yogi Sri Yukteswar used it through giving his own interpretations. Yogi Sri Yukteswar had also said that at the end of Dvapara Yuga (about 700 BC), Maharaja Yudhisthira, noticing the appearance of the dark Kali Yuga, handed over his throne to his grandson and, together with all of his wise men, retired to the Himalaya Mountains. This would mean that about the time when Christ exists, Kaliyug was about to finish. It has to be noted that Christ was supposed to have brought in a new Age (the Age of Pieces). So at the end of the Hindu cycle, the Christians New Age begins (like as if it is a continuation of the precessional cycle). The next Christian Age (which will be the Age of Aquarius) is supposed to bring in the new world around 2012. Pieces and Aquarius are constellations in the sky. The precessional cycle takes us through all the constellations in the sky which are used in astrology, and so this would be a very important cycle too. There is a possibility that the Vedic Yuga cycle is a cycle based on the astronomical constellations (which is based on the precessional cycle). The Vedic Yuga cycle is not the spiritual cycle of 5000 years. Hinduism has completely ignored the 5000 year spiritual cycle. The Hindus in North India began giving greater emphasis to Vishnu for sustenance and this may be a reason why the Hindu religion began to ignore the 5000 year spiritual cycle. The 5000 year spiritual cycle gives emphasis to a regular 'creation' and 'destruction'. This would have given emphasis to Shiva and Brahma instead of to Vishnu. Brahma is the god for creation and Shiva is the god for destruction. Vishnu is the god for sustenance. A prolonged cycle would give emphasis to Vishnu. The Hindu cosmological cycle thus gives emphasis to Vishnu because through such a long cycle it is Vishnu who would be playing a huge part for a long time without Brahma and Shiva coming into the picture. Brahma's and Shiva's part in the cycle are diminished or complete removed for the long span of the Hindu cosmological cycle.
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I don't know if any Dadi has been left with the impression that there will be change in the cycle. If you like to revise all the murlis available, please come with final desicion. I thought it is perfectly clear for every BK and Dadi, based on the murlis of 5 years or more whether the commonly-accepted opinion is that there will be change in the cycle or not. You can ask. You can anyway have your own oppinion, but here you are trying to misguide people that in fact probably Baba has said so in the murli, whilst it is your own new idea.
It is said in the murli that we are responsible to change even matter. Our body will be purified (renewed). The earth will be purified. If we can purify the earth why not the sky.
In the advanced knowledge the ideas is that every particle has its own cylce and at the end of the cycle after the transfomration it arrives at exacly the same place where it started. I don't know if this applies to the stars, but why not. God is said to be God of the entire universe and not only of the earth. If you ask the scientists they will tell you that the earth itself is billions of years old, but they have completely different understanding of time being linear. Same way where stars are concerned it is possible they have some cycle of their own and a way to renew themselves.
(Posted on 8-10-2013)
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